Ep.124 — Trung Phan + Rob Henderson — Talking Television

Is this the greatest crossover event in history? Fresh from their individual appearances on Infinite Loops, Trung Phan and Rob Henderson join forces to discuss TV, film, and why Rob still hasn’t seen Apocalypse Now.

Important Links:

- [Rob’s Substack](https://robkhenderson.substack.com)
- [Rob’s Twitter](https://twitter.com/robkhenderson)
- [Trung’s Substack](https://trungphan.substack.com)
- [Trung’s Twitter](https://twitter.com/trungtphan)

Show Notes:
00:00 - Start
02:32 - Intro
04:51 - Hearts of Darkness: one of the craziest stories in Hollywood history
07:04 - The beginning of TV’s golden age
11:55 - Breadth or depth? The two paths to prestige TV
15:09 - What TV can teach you about elite America
24:23 - The two ways of watching prestige TV
28:03 - How TV shows program us
37:43 - The decline of event TV
47:15 - Succession and signalling
54:52 - The Great Reshuffle and Substack
01:04:28 - The 70s: one of the worst American decades of all time
01:08:47 - What will TV be like in 10 years’ time?
01:19:28 - Challenge yourself with art
01:20:30 - Broaden your content horizons

Books Mentioned:

- Heart of Darkness; by Joseph Conrad
- Unflattening; by Nick Sousanis
- The Iliad; by Homer
- The Odyssey; by Homer
- The Da Vinci Code; by Dan Brown
- Infinite Jest; by David Foster Wallace

TV Shows and Films Mentioned:

- Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker’s Apocalypse
- Apocalypse Now
- The Shield
- The Godfather
- The Sopranos
- Seinfeld
- All In The Family
- The Wire
- The Simpsons
- The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air
- Mad Men
- Game of Thrones
- The West Wing
- Roseanne
- Power Rangers
- The O.C.
- Breaking Bad
- Better Call Saul
- The Truman Show
- Back to the Future
- I Love Lucy
- Succession
- Will and Grace
- Severance
- House of Cards
- Stranger Things
- Office Space
- Euphoria
- Avengers: End Game
- Top Gun Maverick
- The Office
- Parasite