Ep.126 — The Mind-Body Connection w/ Liz Wallenstein + Dr. Michael Donnino

Dr Michael Donnino is the founder/director of the Psychophysiologic Research Group, and the first person in the country to complete a residency/fellowship program leading to board certification in internal medicine, emergency medicine, and critical care.

Liz Wallenstein is a licensed mental health counselor who has trained in, among other areas, the methodology of ‘TMS Mind Body-Connection’.

Liz and Dr Michael join the show to discuss the profound influence of Dr John Sarno on their lives, and the potentially transformational power of ‘Mind-Body’ therapies.

Important Links:

- [The Mind-Body Group](https://www.mindbodygroup.net/)
- [Michael’s Twitter](https://twitter.com/mdonnino?s=21&t=UksOB4xRlZEEcoRQg6OcOQ)
- [Liz’s Website](https://lizwallensteintherapy.com)
- [Healing Back Pain: The Mind-Body Connection](https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684)

Show Notes:
00:00:00 - Start
[00:01:27] - Podcast Intro
[00:08:35] - Guest Intro
[00:16:59] - Introductions to Dr. Sarno
[00:27:46] - The relationship between our emotional and physical reactions
[00:34:42] - Reasons to be hopeful
[00:41:29] - Emotions and conditioning
[00:46:57] - A response to the sceptics
[00:53:38] - The societal costs of chronic pain
[00:56:34] - Mental health: moving beyond diagnostic labels
[01:07:13] - What does the medical community think of mind-body syndrome?
[01:15:53] - The future of mind-body treatments
[01:19:18] - The importance of sincerity

Books Mentioned:

- Your Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma; by Bessel van der Kolk;
- Molecules of Emotion: The Science Behind Mind-Body Medicine; by Candace Pert
- Healing Back Pain; by John E. Sarno
- The Screwtape Letters; by C.S. Lewis
- The Status Game: On Human Life and How to Play It; by Will Storr
- The Great Pain Deception: Faulty Medical Advice Is Making Us Worse; by Steve Ozanich
- Anatomy of an Illness: As Perceived by the Patient; by Norman Cousins