Frederik Gieschen — On Agility, Agreeableness, Alchemy & the Arena | Episode 177

"Who is America’s best-known banker? That would be Jamie Dimon.

But who is the richest? That would be Andy Beal, with an estimated net worth of $9 billion."

Friend-of-the-show Frederik Gieschen joins us for an impromptu conversation about his article (https://neckar.substack.com/p/high-roller-lessons-from-americas?r=4emk&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email) on the life and work of Andy Beal, the richest banker in America.

Important Links:

- High Roller: Lessons from America’s Richest Banker - https://neckar.substack.com/p/high-roller-lessons-from-americas
- Frederik’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/neckarvalue?s=21&t=Y_1cvkP_4oOMwt6uD4_arQ
- Frederik’s Substack - https://neckar.substack.com
- Frederik’s previous episode - https://www.infiniteloopspodcast.com/frederik-gieschen-learning-and-failing-in-public-ep85/
- The Internet Contrarian - https://www.osam.com/pdfs/The_Internet_Contrarian_-_4-22-99.pdf

Show Notes:

0:00:00 Intro
0:01:21 The Arena, the Maze, and the Labyrinth
0:07:43 Why do myths endure?
0:12:24 “You can’t do a good deal with a bad person”
0:14:47 America’s richest banker: the Andrew Beal story
0:23:05 Agreeableness, contrarianism, and accountability
0:34:27 Thinking like a banker vs thinking like an investor
0:36:19 The random buzz generator: how to fight linear thinking
0:43:23 The alchemy of success
0:49:36 Bubbles: when heterogeneity becomes homogeneity
0:55:44 “The higher you rise in a hierarchy, the less good the information you get.”
1:01:58 Deterministic vs probabilistic thinking
1:08:21 The difference between being an investor and being in the investing business
1:17:37 The return of Andrew Beal
1:21:40 The importance of agility

Books Mentioned:

- The Cosmic Trigger trilogy; by Robert Anton Wilson
- Aesop’s Fables; by Aesop
- Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art; by James Nestor
- The Professor, the Banker, and the Suicide King: Inside the Richest Poker Game of All Time; by Michael Craig
- What Works on Wall Street; by Jim O’Shaughnessy
- The Snowball: Warren Buffett and the Business of Life; by Alice Schroeder